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The Foley scandal is actually quite similar to the Monica Lewinsky scandal. In both cases, sexually immature middle-aged men used their positions of responsibility to pursue younger people, who were also sexually immature, but had a right to be on account of their youth. The difference is that the Republicans washed their hands of Foley as soon as they figured out what was going on, whereas the Democrats’ attitude toward Clinton is–well, we’ll let Missouri Senate candidate Claire McCaskill, in an interview with Tim Russert on "Meet the Press," explain: Russert: You’re having Bill Clinton come in to raise money for you. Do you think Bill Clinton was a great president? McCaskill: I do. I think–I have a lot of problems with some of his, his, his personal issues. I said at– Russert: But do you– McCaskill: I said at the time, "I think he’s been a great leader, but I don’t want my daughter near him." What a ringing endorsement! And hey, say what you will about Mark Foley, at least you can trust him with your daughter! http://www.opinionjournal.com/best/?id=110009065

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > The Foley scandal is actually quite similar to the Monica Lewinsky scandal. > In both cases, sexually immature middle-aged men used their positions of > responsibility to pursue younger people, who were also sexually immature, > but had a right to be on account of their youth. > The difference is that the Republicans washed their hands of Foley as soon > as they figured out what was going on, whereas the Democrats’ attitude > toward Clinton is–well, we’ll let Missouri Senate candidate Claire > McCaskill, in an interview with Tim Russert on "Meet the Press," explain: > Russert: You’re having Bill Clinton come in to raise money for you. Do you > think Bill Clinton was a great president? > McCaskill: I do. I think–I have a lot of problems with some of his, his, > his personal issues. I said at– > Russert: But do you– > McCaskill: I said at the time, "I think he’s been a great leader, but I > don’t want my daughter near him." > What a ringing endorsement! And hey, say what you will about Mark Foley, at > least you can trust him with your daughter! > http://www.opinionjournal.com/best/?id=110009065

Oh really? Then why don’t you arrange a get-together between Foley and your son? It should be as wholesome as the "Leave it to Beaver" show.

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>" The Foley scandal is actually quite similar to the Monica Lewinsky scandal. > In both cases, sexually immature middle-aged men used their positions of > responsibility to pursue younger people, who were also sexually immature, > but had a right to be on account of their youth."

ROFLMAO!!  I’ve no doubt that *you* were a virgin at Lewinsky’s age, but to declare others that age to be ’sexually immature’ is pathetic grasping at best.  She knew what she was doing, and, by her own admission, was the pursuer.  I’d be willing to bet she was well into double digits at that time in her life.  (News flash John, single people have sex). >"The difference is that the Republicans washed their hands of Foley as soon > as they figured out what was going on, whereas the Democrats’ attitude > toward Clinton is-"

LOL!  You’re really desperate today, aren’t you?  The *difference* is that Foley committed a serious crime, while Clinton committed a serious indiscretion. End of story.

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> The Foley scandal is actually quite similar to the Monica Lewinsky scandal.

Except for the obvious fact that in one case it’s sex between consenting adults and in the other it’s a guy trolling for action by IMing and emailing underage males. > The difference is

See above

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I see little comparison between the Foley incident & the Lewinksy scandal, other than it involves politicans & sex. Many Presidents have had mistresses, so Lewinsky was nothing new.  What was new about it was that a crazy investigation into Clinton’s private affairs lead to an impeachment.  If Clinton had done something truly "bad", then most Democrat’s I know would have asked him to step-down, but the Clinton impeachment was all about politics – the dirtiest kind. Democrat’s have washed their hands of wrong-doers & Republicans have not sometimes, so this characterization is false. Mr Soul http://www.MusicIsLove.com

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> Oh really? Then why don’t you arrange a get-together > between Foley and your son? It should be as wholesome > as the "Leave it to Beaver" show.

You might consider reading what is written here BEFORE you comment. I have posted a number of times that Foley and ALL SCUM like he should be removed. Oops! More of those fact thingies that so many of you Lefty Lemmings refuse to left influence your ideas, beliefs, or posts.

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>" The Foley scandal is actually quite similar to the Monica Lewinsky >scandal. > In both cases, sexually immature middle-aged men used their positions of > responsibility to pursue younger people, who were also sexually immature, > but had a right to be on account of their youth." > ROFLMAO!!  I’ve no doubt that *you* were a virgin at Lewinsky’s age, > but to declare others that age to be ’sexually immature’ is pathetic > grasping at best.

You fail to note that the story did NOT state virgin, merely immature. You might never have noticed but there is usually a difference in maturity between someone in their teens, and someone in their twenties. >"The difference is that the Republicans washed their hands of Foley as >soon > as they figured out what was going on, whereas the Democrats’ attitude > toward Clinton is-" > LOL!  You’re really desperate today, aren’t you?

Not at all. Dems embrace SCUM as long as it’s their scum. The *difference* is > that Foley committed a serious crime, while Clinton committed a serious > indiscretion.

What crime did Foley commit?

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"timepixdc" > > The Foley scandal is actually quite similar to the Monica Lewinsky > scandal. > Except for the obvious fact that in one case it’s sex between consenting > adults and in the other it’s a guy trolling for action by IMing and > emailing underage males.

Both are scum that misused their authority.

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>I see little comparison between the Foley incident & the Lewinksy > scandal, other than it involves politicans & sex.

You regularly fail to see scum when it’s Dem scum. > Many Presidents have had mistresses, so Lewinsky was nothing new.  What > was new about it was that a crazy investigation into Clinton’s private > affairs lead to an impeachment.

Please enlighten us as to ANY investigation that was targeted at Clinton’s private life. Oh, I’ll bet that you are retelling that Dem lie that the Whitewater Investigation that was initiated to investigate the looting of Millions of dollars was only about Clinton’s sex life. What about the over a dozen people that were convicted of scores of Federal Crimes? If Clinton had done something truly > "bad", then most Democrat’s I know would have asked him to step-down, > but the Clinton impeachment was all about politics – the dirtiest kind.

Impeachment is a political act, and that Clinton can be thankful for. As the courts ruled, William Jefferson Clinton committed criminal acts, and was disbarred because of them. > Democrat’s have washed their hands of wrong-doers & Republicans have > not sometimes, so this characterization is false.

Isn’t that nice Democratic Congressman that had $90,000 in his freezer STILL in office?

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>" The Foley scandal is actually quite similar to the Monica Lewinsky >>scandal. >> In both cases, sexually immature middle-aged men used their positions of >> responsibility to pursue younger people, who were also sexually immature, >> but had a right to be on account of their youth." > ROFLMAO!!  I’ve no doubt that *you* were a virgin at Lewinsky’s age, > but to declare others that age to be ’sexually immature’ is pathetic > grasping at best. > You fail to note that the story did NOT state virgin, merely immature. You > might never have noticed but there is usually a difference in maturity > between someone in their teens, and someone in their twenties. >>"The difference is that the Republicans washed their hands of Foley as >>soon >> as they figured out what was going on, whereas the Democrats’ attitude >> toward Clinton is-" > LOL!  You’re really desperate today, aren’t you? > Not at all. Dems embrace SCUM as long as it’s their scum. > The *difference* is > that Foley committed a serious crime, while Clinton committed a serious > indiscretion. > What crime did Foley commit?

Isn’t he accused of child molestation or "No Child’s Behind Left"? Or do you think that should not be a crime?

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>" The Foley scandal is actually quite similar to the Monica Lewinsky >>scandal. >> In both cases, sexually immature middle-aged men used their positions of >> responsibility to pursue younger people, who were also sexually immature, >> but had a right to be on account of their youth." > ROFLMAO!!  I’ve no doubt that *you* were a virgin at Lewinsky’s age, > but to declare others that age to be ’sexually immature’ is pathetic > grasping at best. > You fail to note that the story did NOT state virgin, merely immature. You > might never have noticed but there is usually a difference in maturity > between someone in their teens, and someone in their twenties.

What I’ve noticed, is that age has NOTHING to do with maturity.  There are very mature teenagers, and very immature persons in their 20’s or older.  Monica Lewinsky WAS in her 20’s, and obviously quite sexually experienced. >>"The difference is that the Republicans washed their hands of Foley as >>soon >> as they figured out what was going on, whereas the Democrats’ attitude >> toward Clinton is-" > LOL!  You’re really desperate today, aren’t you? > Not at all. Dems embrace SCUM as long as it’s their scum.

Well, I’m not a Democrat, and I certainly never felt anything but disgust for what Clinton did. Adultery is a sign of moral weakness.  No one held a gun to his head and forced him to get married.  If he felt he couldn’t stay committed to a single woman, he never should have gotten married in the first place. > The *difference* is > that Foley committed a serious crime, while Clinton committed a serious > indiscretion. > What crime did Foley commit?

Federal or State?? http://www.bradenton.com/mld/bradenton/news/local/15697745.htm

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> "timepixdc" > >> The Foley scandal is actually quite similar to the Monica Lewinsky >> scandal. > Except for the obvious fact that in one case it’s sex between consenting > adults and in the other it’s a guy trolling for action by IMing and > emailing underage males. > Both are scum that misused their authority.

If that’s the case, any musician or celebrity who has sex with a fan is equally guilty of the same.  It takes two to tango, you know.  Lewinsky admitted to Pursuing Clinton.  Foley was the pursuer.  Of children. BIG difference. Do you think beautiful young women go out with fat, old movie stars because they find them attractive?  : ) Some women will always act like whores, while complaining that they get treated like whores. It’s just the nature of the way things work.

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> >I see little comparison between the Foley incident & the Lewinksy > scandal, other than it involves politicans & sex. > You regularly fail to see scum when it’s Dem scum.

The fact that you can’t discern the difference between a consenting sexual relationship between two adults and an adult sexually stalking a child speaks volumes about your lack of morals.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "timepixdc" > > >> The Foley scandal is actually quite similar to the Monica Lewinsky > >> scandal. > > Except for the obvious fact that in one case it’s sex between consenting > > adults and in the other it’s a guy trolling for action by IMing and > > emailing underage males. > Both are scum that misused their authority. > If that’s the case, any musician or celebrity who has sex with a fan is > equally guilty of the same.  It takes two to tango, you know.  Lewinsky > admitted to Pursuing Clinton.  Foley was the pursuer.  Of children. > BIG difference. > Do you think beautiful young women go out with fat, old movie stars > because they find them attractive?  : ) > Some women will always act like whores, while complaining that they get > treated like whores. > It’s just the nature of the way things work.

So *that’s* why Weanton acts like a whore. Thanks for clearing that up for us.

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Waiting for tears in a Barbara Walters interview is like waiting for blood in a prizefight. Cry No. 1 in the Monica Lewinsky "20/20" interview came at 9:51 p.m. EST. Cry No. 2 hit at 10:41, with the story of the FBI bust on Jan. 16. And then Babs moved in like Tyson, scoring No. 3 at 10:43 with a round of questions about Monica’s family. Monica’s face reddened; her lip quivered. We all knew her history — the White House freak-outs, the wailing to Linda Tripp — and for a second it looked like our Mon might go to pieces. Would she lose control? Would her voice crack? Would there be mucus? There would be none of that. Composed and professional in a dark suit with her hair pulled back — and about a quart of Vaseline on the camera — Monica (or, at least, the Monica we saw in the final edit, which at times looked like it was spliced from file footage) lived her life in two hours and came out dry, smiling and ready for love. Though we all guessed there wouldn’t be any real revelations — and except for Monica’s abortion admission and, maybe, her antidepressants, there weren’t — the build-up this past week was staggering. New York publicists complained they couldn’t get anyone to show for Monica-night events; people organized Monica parties; ABC garnered $800,000 for a 30-second commercial spot — half the rate of the Super Bowl, approaching Academy Awards numbers. (Did anyone else notice a disproportionate number of ads for Snackwell’s, the new diet drug wonder Meridia, herbal diet aids and Victoria’s Secret breaking up the talk with the zaftig, thong-wearing Lewinsky?) In its breathy promos, ABC showed Walters posing provocative questions and Monica biting her lip but — teasingly — never talking, investing her with sphinxlike power as though, were she finally to speak, your television would explode. The problem is that by now Monica was just about the chattiest sphinx in American history, having surfeited us with the Starr Report, the Tripp tapes and the Senate deposition. The popular comparison of the broadcast was to the big game or Oscar night. But only if the Super Bowl had already been played last August, if the Oscars had already been given out and they were just rerunning the musical numbers. God knows we commentators stopped having anything new to say about Monica months ago, but it’s a comfort to us to know that she’s pretty much tapped out on the subject too. What the interview did help clarify were some of those longstanding watercooler questions: the why-did-she, how-could-she questions. For instance, how could Monica not feel like she was being used? Why would she want a relationship with a man who took a congressman’s phone call in the middle of their first sexual encounter? As she answered — in not so many words — duh. "There was a level of excitement," she said. "A level of danger involved in the relationship." I mean, damn! Nothing says, "You’re having sex with the president" like an intracoital congressional phone call. And the why-did-he questions? The interview probably gave little material to Clinton biographers, but it was refreshing to hear Monica implicitly answer the question, "Why would he risk it?" — a childish query repeated by pundits and supporters who, as Mr. Mojo Nixon would put it, have no Elvis in them. "I would imagine it’s very difficult being president of the United States," she said. "There’s tremendous pressure. Sometimes, you just need a piece of …" "Ass!" volunteered 50 million Americans in the home audience.

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Monica Lewinsky  - A woman who had more President in her mouth than George W. Bush has in his entire body.

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> Monica Lewinsky  - A woman who had more President in her mouth than > George W. Bush has in his entire body.

Well, to the extent N. Korea’s latest move just put THE next to last nail in George’s historical rep., I’d say Bill just slipped him a pretty good ass-doggy! So, W and Monica are back on par…give it till the inaugural in 1/09.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>" The Foley scandal is actually quite similar to the Monica Lewinsky >>scandal. >> In both cases, sexually immature middle-aged men used their positions of >> responsibility to pursue younger people, who were also sexually immature, >> but had a right to be on account of their youth." > ROFLMAO!!  I’ve no doubt that *you* were a virgin at Lewinsky’s age, > but to declare others that age to be ’sexually immature’ is pathetic > grasping at best. >You fail to note that the story did NOT state virgin, merely immature. You >might never have noticed but there is usually a difference in maturity >between someone in their teens, and someone in their twenties.

And then there is you, who will never be considered mature. — Ken Wilson

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "timepixdc" > > >> The Foley scandal is actually quite similar to the Monica Lewinsky > >> scandal. > > Except for the obvious fact that in one case it’s sex between consenting > > adults and in the other it’s a guy trolling for action by IMing and > > emailing underage males. > Both are scum that misused their authority. >If that’s the case, any musician or celebrity who has sex with a fan is >equally guilty of the same.  It takes two to tango, you know.  Lewinsky >admitted to Pursuing Clinton.  Foley was the pursuer.  Of children. >BIG difference.

Tom Foley, the Michael Jackson for your teenager… — Ken Wilson

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> >> The Foley scandal is actually quite similar to the Monica Lewinsky >> scandal. > Except for the obvious fact that in one case it’s sex between consenting > adults and in the other it’s a guy trolling for action by IMing and > emailing underage males. > Both are scum that misused their authority.

Wrong again. Thanks for playing.

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>You might consider reading what is written here BEFORE you comment. I have >posted a number of times that Foley and ALL SCUM like he should be >removed. > I read your bullshit.  You compare Clinton to Foley, and there is no > comparison.

Both misused their authority. Clinton was found to have committed criminal acts and was disbarred. We will see if Foley was merely scummy, or if he committed criminal acts as well.

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> What crime did Foley commit? > Isn’t he accused of child molestation or "No Child’s Behind Left"?

Please provide verification of him touching any minor.

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> You fail to note that the story did NOT state virgin, merely immature. > You > might never have noticed but there is usually a difference in maturity > between someone in their teens, and someone in their twenties. > What I’ve noticed, is that age has NOTHING to do with maturity.  There > are very mature teenagers, and very immature persons in their 20’s or > older.  Monica Lewinsky WAS in her 20’s, and obviously quite sexually > experienced.

Go back and read some more about Monica. She was nineTEEN when it started. > >>"The difference is that the Republicans washed their hands of Foley as > >>soon > >> as they figured out what was going on, whereas the Democrats’ attitude > >> toward Clinton is-" > > LOL!  You’re really desperate today, aren’t you? > Not at all. Dems embrace SCUM as long as it’s their scum. > Well, I’m not a Democrat, and I certainly never felt anything but > disgust for what Clinton did.

As did I. > Adultery is a sign of moral weakness.  No one held a gun to his head > and forced him to get married.  If he felt he couldn’t stay committed > to a single woman, he never should have gotten married in the first > place.

Bingo! > The *difference* is > > that Foley committed a serious crime, while Clinton committed a serious > > indiscretion.

No the courts found that Clinton had committed criminal acts and that is why he was disbarred. > What crime did Foley commit? > Federal or State?? > http://www.bradenton.com/mld/bradenton/news/local/15697745.htm

Might was the key word in that story, so we’ll see if he is ever convicted of anything.

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> > You compare Clinton to Foley, and there is no > comparison. > Both misused their authority.

Another lie.

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> Both are scum that misused their authority. > If that’s the case, any musician or celebrity who has sex with a fan is > equally guilty of the same.

Fans are NOT employees. It takes two to tango, you know.  Lewinsky > admitted to Pursuing Clinton.

She was still a Government employee who was his subordinate. In the Military, officers have been Court Martialed for that. Foley was the pursuer.  Of children. > BIG difference. > Do you think beautiful young women go out with fat, old movie stars > because they find them attractive?  : )

They find the power attractive. Remember when Henry Kissinger wrote about it when he was dating World Class beauties. > Some women will always act like whores, while complaining that they get > treated like whores. > It’s just the nature of the way things work.

And the mature, responsible authority should rise to the occasion.

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