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Mike Campbell Saratoga Springs, NY Employer: OFT (Office for Technology), NY State. lol
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> Mike Campbell > Saratoga Springs, NY > Employer: OFT (Office for Technology), NY State. > lol
The guy already admitted to living in NJ. This ain’t it. bk
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Mike Campbell >Saratoga Springs, NY >Employer: OFT (Office for Technology), NY State. >lol > The guy already admitted > to living in NJ. This ain’t > it. > bk
Mike must be someone he’s recon-photo’d and slobber whacked off to to the point of diminishing returns. Now, it takes a bic lighter on his sack and a dab of turd on his upper lip while pecking at the keyboard with his nose (at my software filter) for him to so much as stiffen a nipple. Good thing I’m 2500 miles away or the room he types from would be littered with my pics, all crumpled and jerkwater stained. As it is, all those bogus links of me he’s photoshop cobbled together probably keep his unit raw as steak tartar. Poor bastard.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>Mike Campbell >>Saratoga Springs, NY >>Employer: OFT (Office for Technology), NY State. >>lol > The guy already admitted > to living in NJ. This ain’t > it. > bk > Mike must be someone he’s recon-photo’d and slobber whacked off to > to the point of diminishing returns. Now, it takes a bic lighter > on his sack and a dab of turd on his upper lip while pecking at > the keyboard with his nose (at my software filter) for him to > so much as stiffen a nipple. Good thing I’m 2500 miles away or > the room he types from would be littered with my pics, all crumpled > and jerkwater stained. As it is, all those bogus links of me he’s > photoshop cobbled together probably keep his unit raw as steak tartar. > Poor bastard.
Mr. Dover didn’t post this. (It’s a vicious circle, I know, but to play ya gotta pay attention 
bk PS Eventually, all things must come to an end….
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>>Mike Campbell >>>Saratoga Springs, NY >>>Employer: OFT (Office for Technology), NY State. >>>lol >>The guy already admitted >>to living in NJ. This ain’t >>it. >>bk >Mike must be someone he’s recon-photo’d and slobber whacked off to >to the point of diminishing returns. Now, it takes a bic lighter >on his sack and a dab of turd on his upper lip while pecking at >the keyboard with his nose (at my software filter) for him to >so much as stiffen a nipple. Good thing I’m 2500 miles away or >the room he types from would be littered with my pics, all crumpled >and jerkwater stained. As it is, all those bogus links of me he’s >photoshop cobbled together probably keep his unit raw as steak tartar. >Poor bastard. > Mr. Dover didn’t post this. > (It’s a vicious circle, I know, > but to play ya gotta pay attention > bk > PS > Eventually, all things > must come to an end….
Normally yes, but he’s the pivot man in his own jerk circle. mvm
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On 7 Apr 2006 — MULAY, while obviously having a "message posting melt-down", blathered: >all those bogus links of me he’s > photoshop cobbled together probably keep his unit raw as steak tartar
So, is THAT what your problem is? You caught mad cow disease from eating steak tartar, right??! LOL Oh & the photo links ain’t bogus if they WORK… why not try some? LOL Where you’ll probably be before June 2006: http://home.att.net/~Lerxst.77/bellevue/mulay-countdown.html You from your "Mad Max" days: http://home.att.net/~Lerxst.77/bellevue/mulay_the_gimp.jpg And one of my favorites! The age-progressed photo of you in the year 2036: http://home.att.net/~Lerxst.77/bellevue/mulay_2036.html (for anyone who missed the discussion and doesn’t understand the "2036 reference" — just Google the quote at the top of that page re- park bench, etc.)
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> Mr. Dover didn’t post this. > (It’s a vicious circle, I know, > but to play ya gotta pay attention > bk > PS > Eventually, all things > must come to an end….
Boom Boom Mulay’s family discovered his activities and went for HIV tests. They fear for their lives and are considering having him committed again.
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http://www.matusic.com/stalker.gif
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http://www.thepoke.co.uk/images/regulars/stalker.jpg
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caught ya!
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> http://www.thepoke.co.uk/images/regulars/stalker.jpg
boo hoo hooo hoo, poor tippy. nobody wuvs him. :……(
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World – OneWorld.net Protectors Turn Child Predators in Pakistan Thu Mar 4, 5:31 AM ET 2004 Ahmad Naeem Khan, OneWorld South Asia LAHORE, Mar 4 (OneWorld) – People in Pakistan are protesting against the rise in crimes against children, particularly by policemen, who escape punishment due to official collusion. According to data released by the nongovernmental organization (NGO), Lawyers for Human Rights and Legal Aid (LHRLA), last year 623 children were murdered, 383 raped and 277 sodomized as against 443 murders, 149 rapes and 219 cases of sodomy in 2001. Among the most sensational cases in the recent past was last month’s rape and murder of two minor girls by policemen in the southern port town of Karachi. The decomposed bodies of five-year-old Hajra and Sassi, seven, were found near a Karachi police station on February 23. Reports say when the two children went missing on February 20, the police initially declined to register a case. Hajra’s father Shabbir Ahmed says he went to the police station many times to lodge a complaint, but the police shooed him away. "We were ignored because we are poor," he protests. The Sindh governor then intervened and issued orders for the arrest of the head of the police station and three other policemen. The governor’s move miraculously produced results. A case of murder was registered against four policemen. Deputy inspector general of police Mohammad Akbar says seven police officials are being questioned in the double murder. "They are not arrested so far. We have detained them and are grilling them," he points out. But the odds are heavily stacked against an early breakthrough. The chief of LHRLA, Zia Ahmed Awan, says in most cases where policemen are culpable, their colleagues sabotage investigations, leaving room for the accused to walk. Awan blames the problem on the fact that criminal elements have joined the police force. Scores of policemen have criminal cases against them. In an expression of public anger, last week thousands of protestors hit the streets of Karachi, stoning police stations to vent their anger. The Alliance for the Restoration of Democracy (ARD) staged a big demonstration against the killing of the girls in Karachi Wednesday. Sassi’s father, laborer Sher Gul, is devastated. "If policemen, who are supposed to provide security to people, commit such heinous crimes, where should people look for security," he asks. In Islamabad, people demanded the resignation of Interior Minister Faisal Saleh Hyat. Sindhi party, the Jeay Sindh Qaumi Mahaz (JSQM), mourned the deaths on Wednesday. JSQM chief Bashir Qureshi announced a three-day mourning in the province. But the mourning after, Pakistan remains an unsafe place for children. Earlier this month, 11-year-old Saira was raped and murdered in Karachi. There was no breakthrough in the case, until the media made a big issue of the shoddy investigation. This compelled the Inspector General to ask his men to arrest the killers within 48 hours. Finally, an arrested suspect allegedly confessed to the crime. Again, in 2003, a young boy set himself afire after being sodomized by policemen. According to the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan (HRCP), the case received considerable publicity, but no decisive action was taken against the criminals. According to LHRLA, in 2003 over 1,000 cases of physical and 826 cases of sexual abuse were reported in the media against children. There were 66 extremely brutal cases of rape or sodomy in which the girl or boy was also killed subsequently. The data shows 1,087 child abuse cases from the eastern Punjab province, 588 cases in Sindh province, 101 in the North Western Frontier Province (NWFP) and 50 cases in the western Balochistan province. A member of the ruling Pakistan Muslim League (PML-QA) from Sindh, Nisar A. Memon, believes that to rebuild people’s confidence, exemplary punishment should be meted out to those who raped and murdered Sassi and Hajra, especially because the police committed the crime. Many political and religious parties in Pakistan feel the provincial government "has lost control over the police force." Former Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif’s Pakistan Muslim League (PML-N) accuses the government of safeguarding killers. "It’s a pity that our rulers are protecting such criminals," says the party’s Sindh president Imdad Chandio. But Imtiaz Shaikh, a leader of the ruling PML-QA, says the government will take stern punitive measures against the culprits. Shaikh, also a provincial minister, assures that the government will rein in the policemen who are misusing powers. The coordinator of the NGO, War Against Rape, Amina Mehwish elaborates that the survivors, the term she uses for the victims, develop psychological disorders when they fail to get support from society, parents and relatives. Based on experience in handling rape cases, Mehwish says the survivors recover after getting moral support from relatives and society. She stresses the need for imparting training to medico-legal officers, as they do not show sympathy with the survivors in 99 percent of rape cases. Often these officers believe the survivor must have had consent in the act. Stresses social activist Waqas Mehmood Khan, "Violence against children is a very sensitive issue and it’s the prime responsibility of the government and society to adopt measures for the protection of future generations."
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>Will the world hear the silent cry of sex slaves and end this human >tragedy?
Well, Australia has extended its child protection laws so they now apply to Australian citizens even when they are on holiday overseas. That means Australians who used to be able take advantage of children in countries were children were not adequately protected, now risk prosecution after returning to Australia. Regards, Peter
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Qualities of Muslims that will replace the American empire 1. Uncivilized – They don’t know and don’t care of a society bounded by laws, rules and proper manners. 2. Ignorant – They don’t respect the value of higher education. All they know is praise Allah, kill and be with 72 virgins. 3. Murderer – Just watch the daily news who are doing the killings, bombings, attacks, and executions. Rocket attacks on civilians, suicide bombings and a father slashing his nine year-old daughters throat. 4. Filthy – They seldom take a bath. Lice breeds on their mustaches and beards. They don’t use the restrooms properly. They are carriers of the deadly AIDS virus (HIV), Polio, Syphilis and Tuberculosis. 5. Bandaged Head – They always wear it anywhere, even in the wrong place and in the wrong time. 6. Illiterate – They lack communication skills. They show little or no knowledge on diversified subjects. (arts, music, history, culture and the sciences. 7. Backward thinker – Their ideas are 7th century technology and no longer applicable in this modern age 8. Brandishing a Koran he/she don’t read – They treasure the Koran. But they don’t read or understand the writings. 9. Brandishing an AK/RPG in a peaceful community – Just watch these funny creatures firing their weapons in the air while terrified men, women and children watch. 10.Daydreamer and Wishful thinker - they are overwhelmed by the idea that " Islam will replace a collapsing American Empire". like one muslim troll in this N.G posts repeatedly. Ridiculous but how does he propose to do it? 11. Lazy and inefficient – In the U.S.,high percentage of them are fired out from jobs. Most employers complained they always disappear from their workstations of unknown reasons during regular work hours, two to four times a day, daily, leaving them only 7 hours of work, but they collect 8 hour wages. 12. Full of hatred and envy – They talk of violence in their workplace.in the U.S.In one company, they complained to a fellow,employee who got a promotion and smashed a defective vending machine that refuse to give change. They throw nasty remarks to an old woman, a fellow who confronted them of their violent attitude.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Global Shame: Sex Slavery In The Liberal Age > Economic impulses and commercial forces drive globalization, but its > impact goes far beyond the economy to affect all facets of social and > political life. Powerful commercial interests have given rise to a > commercial and commercializing global culture that, it is quite > apparent, will not be satisfied until it reaches into the deepest > recess of social life. Most recently the commercial global culture has > generated a new form of slavery, more brutal and degrading than any > form of slavery known thus far. > Millions of vulnerable women and unsuspecting children throughout the > world, some as young as ten years old, are trapped into a vicious and > ugly world of exploitation, disease, and abuse. These children are > sold, traded, prostituted, and trafficked under the watching eyes of a > world community that has decided to ignore their plight. > Most of these sex slaves are kept by their masters until their > commercial value deteriorates as a result of their deteriorating health > conditions with the advancement of the many sexual diseases they are > exposed to, including HIV and AIDS. Sadly, the end of their conditions > of slavery does not signal the end of their miseries, but the beginning > of a life of poverty, illness, and shame. > Scope Of The Problem > Although most governments, particularly governments of countries where > sex slaves originate, do not provide information and statistics on > trafficking in women, and seem to be oblivious to the plight of these > vulnerable children, studies conducted by NGOs and research > institutions reveal a human tragedy of great proportions. The figures > given by NGOs and individual researchers are often rough estimations, > as accurate data are scarce. The difficulty of coming up with hard > figures stems from two interrelated factors: (1) trafficking in women > is conducted by organized criminals who use deception and intimidation > to maintain a wall of silence and secrecy around their international > trade, and (2) the criminal syndicates involved in this ugly trade are > often backed by corrupt politicians and law enforcement agents who use > all means at their disposal to provide cover up for crimes that provide > lucrative income. > There is hardly any region in the world that escapes the activities of > sex slavery syndicates. Trafficking in women is reported in Africa, > Europe, North America, South Asia, and East and Southeast Asia. > The International Organization for Migration (IOM), a European Union > agency, estimates that some 500,000 women were trafficked to Europe in > 1995. A large number of the women and girls involved came from the > impoverished East European countries of Russia, Ukraine, and Belarus. > Many of the women involved in the sex trade are underage girls who have > been duped into their state of slavery by an elaborate network of > organized criminals. The nonprofit organization End Child Prostitution, > Child Pornography, and the Traffic in Children for Sexual Purposes > (ECPAT) provided the following figures on the number of children > involved in the sex industry in 1994: Brazil 500,000, India 400,000, > Thailand 200,000-850,000, Taiwan 100,000, Nepal 200,000, North America > 100,000-300,000. The Political Economy Center at Chulalungkhorn > University of Thailand estimated that the world sex industry generated > in 1993-95 around $20-23 billion. (ECPAT Development Manual, Melbourne, > Australia, 1994, pp. 21-37.) > Intimidation And DeceptionThe sex slaves who are bought and sold in red > light districts around the globe come from impoverished communities. A > significant number of them are underage girls. Shrewd slave traffickers > who offer their parents tempting sums of money dupe these young and > unassuming girls into sex slavery. The parents are deceived into > believing that the money is given in exchange for employment or > marriage. > The trafficking of Nepalese girls into India is a case in point. Every > year 5,000 to 7,000 Nepalese girls are trafficked into red light > districts in Indian cities. The girls are sold by poor Nepalese > families, tricked into fraudulent marriages, or promised employment in > towns only to find themselves in Indian brothels. Their kidnapers use > brutal means of starvation, intimidation, and outright torture to > initiate the defenseless children into prostitution. > The wicked methods of slave traffickers are well documented in numerous > cases. One such case is that of Mira, a 13-year-old from Nepal. Mira > was offered a job as a domestic worker in Bombay, India’s largest > commercial center, but ended up in the one of the city’s numerous > brothels. When she refused to submit to the sexual demands of her new > masters, she was sent to a windowless room, stripped naked, and was > left for three days without food or drink. On the fourth day, she was > gang raped. In the end, Mira’s will was broken and she joined Bombay’s > sex slaves. (Robert I Friedman, India’s Shame: Sexual Slavery and > Political Corruption are Leading an AIDS Catastrophe, The Nation, 8 > April 1996). > Child-Sex Tourism > In the nineties, a new tourism industry, thriving on child exploitation > and abuse, emerged in South and Southeast Asia, concentrating mainly in > India, Thailand, and the Philippines. Sex tourists come mainly from > high-income countries, particularly North America, Europe, and Japan. > Of 160 foreign pedophiles arrested on child sex-abuse charges in > Southeast Asia between 1992 and 1994, 25% were American, 18% German, > 14% Australian, and 12% English. (End Child Prostitution in Asian > Tourism, Lambiet, 17 May 1998) > In 1990 an orphanage owner in Goa, India, was arrested for allegedly > supplying children to British, French, German, Swiss, and Scandinavian > sex tourists. He was freed on bail. Seven years later, the case was > still not filed with the court. (Rahul Bedi, Bid to Protect Children as > Sex Tourism Spreads, London’s Daily Telegraph, 1997). > Cultural Hedonism > Sexual slavery and sex tourism described above are fueled by an > increasingly hedonistic culture glorifying pleasure, promoting > promiscuous attitudes and behavior, and presenting pornography as > another form of entertainment. Children at a young age are bombarded > with sexual images and gestures. This clumsy promiscuous attitude has > invaded all corners of the world. Pornographic material is becoming > more accessible by the day to wider segments of humanity. > Porno-producing companies use the Internet very effectively to > publicize and promote even the most extreme forms of sexuality. Ron > O’Grady, chairman of ECPAT, estimated that in 1998 around 40,000 > pornographic photographs of children, many from Southeast Asian > countries, were displayed on the Internet. The demand for children in > the sex trade is great. Every year, people from all over the world > travel to Asia to have sex with children, taking photographs and > videos, he noted. (Poona Antaseeda, Expert urges global law to end > child pornography on the Internet, Bangkok Post, June 3, 1998). > The attitude of youngsters influenced by the rising hedonistic culture > is a cause of concern. Friedman reported that 70% of students surveyed > at a wealthy high school in India were interested in a career in > organized crimes, citing good money and good fun as their reasons for > making the choice. (Robert Friedman, India’s Shame, The Nation, April > 8, 1996.) > In Japan, pornography is so pervasive, even schoolchildren have access > to comic books with pornographic contents. Sex magazines can be bought > at vending machines. In 1998, Japan was the world’s biggest producer of > child pornography, and the Japanese parliament refused to pass a law > banning the production of child pornography, citing business reasons. > (Poona Antaseeda, Expert urges global law to end child pornography on > the Internet, Bangkok Post, June 3, 1998). > Stopping The Abuse > Sexual slavery is a serious crime of global proportion, and should be > viewed as such. To combat it, we must view it not simply as a legal > problem, but as a moral issue as well. As long as pornography, > promiscuity, and violence are glorified in movies produced by > entertainment centers, most notably Hollywood and Bombay, the problem > is likely to persist and intensify. The problem must be confronted on > the legal, political, and cultural levels. This requires international > cooperation by both government agencies and nongovernmental > organizations. > Will the world hear the silent cry of sex slaves and end this human > tragedy? Will the world reject the excesses of the entertainment > industry riddled with sexual abuse and violence? Will the world reject > the excesses of economic disparity and economic greed? The freedom and > dignity of millions of children now and in the future hinge on how the > above questions are answered > Center for Balanced Development > Url: http://www.cbdnet.org > http://www.islam-online.net/iol-english/dowalia/society-17-july-2000/…
If this doesn’t say it all..nothing does Islam will replace collapsing Amerikan empire Warning there are anti-Islam forgers and trolls amongst us, proceed with caution
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Global Shame: Sex Slavery In The Liberal Age Economic impulses and commercial forces drive globalization, but its impact goes far beyond the economy to affect all facets of social and political life. Powerful commercial interests have given rise to a commercial and commercializing global culture that, it is quite apparent, will not be satisfied until it reaches into the deepest recess of social life. Most recently the commercial global culture has generated a new form of slavery, more brutal and degrading than any form of slavery known thus far. Millions of vulnerable women and unsuspecting children throughout the world, some as young as ten years old, are trapped into a vicious and ugly world of exploitation, disease, and abuse. These children are sold, traded, prostituted, and trafficked under the watching eyes of a world community that has decided to ignore their plight. Most of these sex slaves are kept by their masters until their commercial value deteriorates as a result of their deteriorating health conditions with the advancement of the many sexual diseases they are exposed to, including HIV and AIDS. Sadly, the end of their conditions of slavery does not signal the end of their miseries, but the beginning of a life of poverty, illness, and shame. Scope Of The Problem Although most governments, particularly governments of countries where sex slaves originate, do not provide information and statistics on trafficking in women, and seem to be oblivious to the plight of these vulnerable children, studies conducted by NGOs and research institutions reveal a human tragedy of great proportions. The figures given by NGOs and individual researchers are often rough estimations, as accurate data are scarce. The difficulty of coming up with hard figures stems from two interrelated factors: (1) trafficking in women is conducted by organized criminals who use deception and intimidation to maintain a wall of silence and secrecy around their international trade, and (2) the criminal syndicates involved in this ugly trade are often backed by corrupt politicians and law enforcement agents who use all means at their disposal to provide cover up for crimes that provide lucrative income. There is hardly any region in the world that escapes the activities of sex slavery syndicates. Trafficking in women is reported in Africa, Europe, North America, South Asia, and East and Southeast Asia. The International Organization for Migration (IOM), a European Union agency, estimates that some 500,000 women were trafficked to Europe in 1995. A large number of the women and girls involved came from the impoverished East European countries of Russia, Ukraine, and Belarus. Many of the women involved in the sex trade are underage girls who have been duped into their state of slavery by an elaborate network of organized criminals. The nonprofit organization End Child Prostitution, Child Pornography, and the Traffic in Children for Sexual Purposes (ECPAT) provided the following figures on the number of children involved in the sex industry in 1994: Brazil 500,000, India 400,000, Thailand 200,000-850,000, Taiwan 100,000, Nepal 200,000, North America 100,000-300,000. The Political Economy Center at Chulalungkhorn University of Thailand estimated that the world sex industry generated in 1993-95 around $20-23 billion. (ECPAT Development Manual, Melbourne, Australia, 1994, pp. 21-37.) Intimidation And DeceptionThe sex slaves who are bought and sold in red light districts around the globe come from impoverished communities. A significant number of them are underage girls. Shrewd slave traffickers who offer their parents tempting sums of money dupe these young and unassuming girls into sex slavery. The parents are deceived into believing that the money is given in exchange for employment or marriage. The trafficking of Nepalese girls into India is a case in point. Every year 5,000 to 7,000 Nepalese girls are trafficked into red light districts in Indian cities. The girls are sold by poor Nepalese families, tricked into fraudulent marriages, or promised employment in towns only to find themselves in Indian brothels. Their kidnapers use brutal means of starvation, intimidation, and outright torture to initiate the defenseless children into prostitution. The wicked methods of slave traffickers are well documented in numerous cases. One such case is that of Mira, a 13-year-old from Nepal. Mira was offered a job as a domestic worker in Bombay, India’s largest commercial center, but ended up in the one of the city’s numerous brothels. When she refused to submit to the sexual demands of her new masters, she was sent to a windowless room, stripped naked, and was left for three days without food or drink. On the fourth day, she was gang raped. In the end, Mira’s will was broken and she joined Bombay’s sex slaves. (Robert I Friedman, India’s Shame: Sexual Slavery and Political Corruption are Leading an AIDS Catastrophe, The Nation, 8 April 1996). Child-Sex Tourism In the nineties, a new tourism industry, thriving on child exploitation and abuse, emerged in South and Southeast Asia, concentrating mainly in India, Thailand, and the Philippines. Sex tourists come mainly from high-income countries, particularly North America, Europe, and Japan. Of 160 foreign pedophiles arrested on child sex-abuse charges in Southeast Asia between 1992 and 1994, 25% were American, 18% German, 14% Australian, and 12% English. (End Child Prostitution in Asian Tourism, Lambiet, 17 May 1998) In 1990 an orphanage owner in Goa, India, was arrested for allegedly supplying children to British, French, German, Swiss, and Scandinavian sex tourists. He was freed on bail. Seven years later, the case was still not filed with the court. (Rahul Bedi, Bid to Protect Children as Sex Tourism Spreads, London’s Daily Telegraph, 1997). Cultural Hedonism Sexual slavery and sex tourism described above are fueled by an increasingly hedonistic culture glorifying pleasure, promoting promiscuous attitudes and behavior, and presenting pornography as another form of entertainment. Children at a young age are bombarded with sexual images and gestures. This clumsy promiscuous attitude has invaded all corners of the world. Pornographic material is becoming more accessible by the day to wider segments of humanity. Porno-producing companies use the Internet very effectively to publicize and promote even the most extreme forms of sexuality. Ron O’Grady, chairman of ECPAT, estimated that in 1998 around 40,000 pornographic photographs of children, many from Southeast Asian countries, were displayed on the Internet. The demand for children in the sex trade is great. Every year, people from all over the world travel to Asia to have sex with children, taking photographs and videos, he noted. (Poona Antaseeda, Expert urges global law to end child pornography on the Internet, Bangkok Post, June 3, 1998). The attitude of youngsters influenced by the rising hedonistic culture is a cause of concern. Friedman reported that 70% of students surveyed at a wealthy high school in India were interested in a career in organized crimes, citing good money and good fun as their reasons for making the choice. (Robert Friedman, India’s Shame, The Nation, April 8, 1996.) In Japan, pornography is so pervasive, even schoolchildren have access to comic books with pornographic contents. Sex magazines can be bought at vending machines. In 1998, Japan was the world’s biggest producer of child pornography, and the Japanese parliament refused to pass a law banning the production of child pornography, citing business reasons. (Poona Antaseeda, Expert urges global law to end child pornography on the Internet, Bangkok Post, June 3, 1998). Stopping The Abuse Sexual slavery is a serious crime of global proportion, and should be viewed as such. To combat it, we must view it not simply as a legal problem, but as a moral issue as well. As long as pornography, promiscuity, and violence are glorified in movies produced by entertainment centers, most notably Hollywood and Bombay, the problem is likely to persist and intensify. The problem must be confronted on the legal, political, and cultural levels. This requires international cooperation by both government agencies and nongovernmental organizations. Will the world hear the silent cry of sex slaves and end this human tragedy? Will the world reject the excesses of the entertainment industry riddled with sexual abuse and violence? Will the world reject the excesses of economic disparity and economic greed? The freedom and dignity of millions of children now and in the future hinge on how the above questions are answered Center for Balanced Development Url: http://www.cbdnet.org http://www.islam-online.net/iol-english/dowalia/society-17-july-2000/…
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> Item 2 has been front page news– > 1. The Jews have been around for thousands and thousands of years, and > circumcision is part of their culture.
Culture and history are not an excuse for assault and mutilation on innocent minors. They are an extremely bright and > enterprising people–0.2 % of the world population, and represent about 23% > (circumcised!) Nobel Prize winners. But their contributions span virtually > every field, from literature to medicine to art…one could go on. They are > noted for having relatively stable families and an extremely low incidence > of both criminal behavior as well as addictions.
Correlation does not imply causation. i.e. just because they have good does traits not mean that they do not have evil traits. > 2. Those involved in AIDs prevention in Africa are extremely excited by > South Africa’s study that circumcised men have a much, much lower > transmission of HIV than uncircumcised men–up to ***70%!!*** lower rates of > infecting women. Very promising for a simple way of reducing the rampant > spread of AIDs in Africa–the article is below.
Even if circumcision protects against disease, that is a prophylactic decision that one should make as an adult. It does not give anyone, parents, or doctors a right to circumcise a child without his or her consent. Some people are monogamous and do not have to worry about the risk of disease. We all have a right to make our own decisions in life, considering the costs and benefits of them all, and those who are circumcised in childhood are deprived of that right. All you can do as a health professional is inform people of the costs and benefits of certain prophylactic decisions. Even if circumcision protects against HIV contraction, it should be illegal to circumcise anyone under the age of 18 or 21. Circumcision is a choice that should be made by oneself, as an ADULT. For even with the hypothetical benefit of less HIV contraction, there is still the cost (to some, if not others) of being circumcised, not monetary cost, but the cost of being circumcised, as some men would not want to be circumcised, weighed against the benefit of this supposed less HIV contraction. If cutting off your arm made it less likely to get a serious illness, it would not always be reasonable to cut off one’s arm, if there was a possibility of living a wholesome life WITH one’s arm intact, EVEN THOUGH, you would be at a greater risk of disease. For even some might know that they would not be at risk for the disease in their isolated (or monogamous) lifestyle. And, some might rather die than go through life without an arm. People have individual preferences. As far as the argument, that circumcising people makes everyone in society as a whole safer, an easy response anyone who perpetrates this idea is for women to a) not have sex with uncircumcised men, who according to some may supposedly have been at a greater risk of contracting HIV, or b) have their partner tested. Forcing circumcision is certainly unnecessary. It should be illegal to circumcise anyone under the age of 18 or 21. Body modification against unwilling recipients is mayhem. People under age 18 do not have the ability to consent to such extra-ordinary body modification. So while adults might generally be free to modify their own bodies as they please, it is illegal mayhem to modify the bodies of unconsenting individuals such as minors, a crime which carries a penalty of up to life in prison in some states. Certainly some cases such as birth deformities, accidents, and medically necessary surgery are exempt. The only question is when is a birth deformity bad enough to require extensive body modification. Some person could be born with a truly abnormally big nose which could be considered a deformity. Another person might just want a nose which was more aesthetically pleasing. It is possible this could be a passing whim…… we’ve seen what multiple nose jobs have done to Michael Jackson. While irreversible body modifications such as tongue splitting and circumcision should be illegal on minors under the age of 18, reversible body modification such as piercings can probably be exempt. But tattoos should probably be illegal…. It may still be somewhat of an unanswered issue. While teenagers can give more consent than a baby, they are still minors making decisions which can affect the whole of their lives, and worse they may be pressured by their parents to undergo unnecessary body modification. While on the one hand some teenagers might want plastic surgery to improve their lives in school which can set the course of their lives, on the other side of the issue, we may see what too many nose jobs has done to Michael Jackson. In the case of circumcision there is no reason why a teenager cannot wait until they are over 18, or even 21 to decide to have this irreversible procedure performed. And it is absolutely immoral and wrong to perform it on an unwilling baby who has no say in the matter. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Another relevant link: > (http://www.boston.com/news/globe/health_science/articles/2004/11/16/c… > ) > ABC News > Study: Male Circumcision Lowers AIDS Risk > French Researchers Find Male Circumcision Reduces Female-To-Male > Transmission of the AIDS Virus > By MICHAEL ASTOR Associated Press Writer > The Associated Press > RIO DE JANEIRO, Brazil Jul 26, 2005 – Male circumcision significantly > reduces the chances of female-to-male transmission of the AIDS virus, > according to a new study French researchers announced Tuesday. > The study, conducted in South Africa, found that circumcision reduced the > risk of men contracting AIDS during heterosexual intercourse by about 65 > percent. > "There had always been a suspicion that male circumcision prevented AIDS . > but this is the first randomized study using control trials," said Dr. > Bertrand Auvert, who coordinated the study for France’s National AIDS > Research Agency. > Auvert announced the finding at the Third International AIDS Society > Conference on HIV Pathogenesis and Treatment in Rio de Janeiro which ends > Wednesday. > The study was conducted between 2002 and 2005 with more than 3,000 healthy, > sexually active males between 18 and 24 in Orange Farm, South Africa, where > about 32 percent of the female population was HIV positive. > For the study, about half of the subjects were circumcised by medical > professionals, and the rest remained uncircumcised. > All of the men received counseling on AIDS prevention. But after 21 months, > 51 members of the uncircumcised group had contracted HIV, the AIDS virus, > while only 18 members of the circumcised group had gotten the disease. > Circumcision "prevented six to seven out of 10 potential HIV infections," > said Auvert. > He said the study did not analyze the effect of circumcision on > male-to-female transmission or if circumcision provides effective protection > over the long term. At least three more studies are under way to confirm the > effectiveness of circumcision. > But scientists said the study was cause for guarded optimism. > "While these results are very promising, we need to put them in a broader > context to see the full benefits of circumcision. So we need to look at > results from other studies," said Dr. Charles Gilks, director-coordinator of > treatment and prevention for the World Health Organization. > A study funded by the U.S. National Health Institute involving 5,000 > individuals is currently under way in Uganda. Scientists expect to announce > the results only in early 2007. > It should be illegal to circumcise anyone under the age of 18 or 21. > Body modification against unwilling recipients is mayhem. People under > age 18 do not have the ability to consent to such extra-ordinary body > modification. So while adults might generally be free to modify their > own bodies as they please, it is wrong illegal mayhem to modify the > bodies of unconsenting individuals such as minors, a crime which > carries a penalty of up to life in prison in some places. Certainly > some cases such as birth deformities, accidents, and medically > necessary surgery are exempt. The only question is when is a birth > deformity bad enough to require extensive body modification. Some > person could be born with a truly abnormally big nose which could be > considered a deformity. Another person might just want a nose which > was more aesthetically pleasing. It is possible this could be a > passing whim…… we’ve seen what multiple nose jobs have done to > Michael Jackson. While irreversible body modifications such as tongue > splitting and circumcision should be illegal on minors under the age of > 18, reversible body modification such as piercings can probably be > exempt. But tattoos should probably be illegal…. > It may still be somewhat of an unanswered issue. While teenagers can > give more consent than a baby, they are still minors making decisions > which can affect the whole of their lives, and worse they may be > pressured by their parents to undergo unnecessary body modification. > While on the one hand some teenagers might want plastic surgery to > improve their lives in school which can set the course of their lives, > on the other side of the issue, we may see what too many nose jobs has > done to Michael Jackson. In the case of circumcision there is no > reason why a teenager cannot wait until they are over 18, or even 21 to > decide to have this irreversible procedure performed. And it is > absolutely immoral and wrong to perform it on an unwilling baby who has
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Item 2 has been front page news– 1. The Jews have been around for thousands and thousands of years, and circumcision is part of their culture. They are an extremely bright and enterprising people–0.2 % of the world population, and represent about 23% (circumcised!) Nobel Prize winners. But their contributions span virtually every field, from literature to medicine to art…one could go on. They are noted for having relatively stable families and an extremely low incidence of both criminal behavior as well as addictions. 2. Those involved in AIDs prevention in Africa are extremely excited by South Africa’s study that circumcised men have a much, much lower transmission of HIV than uncircumcised men–up to ***70%!!*** lower rates of infecting women. Very promising for a simple way of reducing the rampant spread of AIDs in Africa–the article is below. Another relevant link: (http://www.boston.com/news/globe/health_science/articles/2004/11/16/c… ) ABC News Study: Male Circumcision Lowers AIDS Risk French Researchers Find Male Circumcision Reduces Female-To-Male Transmission of the AIDS Virus By MICHAEL ASTOR Associated Press Writer The Associated Press RIO DE JANEIRO, Brazil Jul 26, 2005 – Male circumcision significantly reduces the chances of female-to-male transmission of the AIDS virus, according to a new study French researchers announced Tuesday. The study, conducted in South Africa, found that circumcision reduced the risk of men contracting AIDS during heterosexual intercourse by about 65 percent. "There had always been a suspicion that male circumcision prevented AIDS . but this is the first randomized study using control trials," said Dr. Bertrand Auvert, who coordinated the study for France’s National AIDS Research Agency. Auvert announced the finding at the Third International AIDS Society Conference on HIV Pathogenesis and Treatment in Rio de Janeiro which ends Wednesday. The study was conducted between 2002 and 2005 with more than 3,000 healthy, sexually active males between 18 and 24 in Orange Farm, South Africa, where about 32 percent of the female population was HIV positive. For the study, about half of the subjects were circumcised by medical professionals, and the rest remained uncircumcised. All of the men received counseling on AIDS prevention. But after 21 months, 51 members of the uncircumcised group had contracted HIV, the AIDS virus, while only 18 members of the circumcised group had gotten the disease. Circumcision "prevented six to seven out of 10 potential HIV infections," said Auvert. He said the study did not analyze the effect of circumcision on male-to-female transmission or if circumcision provides effective protection over the long term. At least three more studies are under way to confirm the effectiveness of circumcision. But scientists said the study was cause for guarded optimism. "While these results are very promising, we need to put them in a broader context to see the full benefits of circumcision. So we need to look at results from other studies," said Dr. Charles Gilks, director-coordinator of treatment and prevention for the World Health Organization. A study funded by the U.S. National Health Institute involving 5,000 individuals is currently under way in Uganda. Scientists expect to announce the results only in early 2007.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> It should be illegal to circumcise anyone under the age of 18 or 21. > Body modification against unwilling recipients is mayhem. People under > age 18 do not have the ability to consent to such extra-ordinary body > modification. So while adults might generally be free to modify their > own bodies as they please, it is wrong illegal mayhem to modify the > bodies of unconsenting individuals such as minors, a crime which > carries a penalty of up to life in prison in some places. Certainly > some cases such as birth deformities, accidents, and medically > necessary surgery are exempt. The only question is when is a birth > deformity bad enough to require extensive body modification. Some > person could be born with a truly abnormally big nose which could be > considered a deformity. Another person might just want a nose which > was more aesthetically pleasing. It is possible this could be a > passing whim…… we’ve seen what multiple nose jobs have done to > Michael Jackson. While irreversible body modifications such as tongue > splitting and circumcision should be illegal on minors under the age of > 18, reversible body modification such as piercings can probably be > exempt. But tattoos should probably be illegal…. > It may still be somewhat of an unanswered issue. While teenagers can > give more consent than a baby, they are still minors making decisions > which can affect the whole of their lives, and worse they may be > pressured by their parents to undergo unnecessary body modification. > While on the one hand some teenagers might want plastic surgery to > improve their lives in school which can set the course of their lives, > on the other side of the issue, we may see what too many nose jobs has > done to Michael Jackson. In the case of circumcision there is no > reason why a teenager cannot wait until they are over 18, or even 21 to > decide to have this irreversible procedure performed. And it is > absolutely immoral and wrong to perform it on an unwilling baby who has > no say in the matter.
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"It should be illegal to circumcise anyone under the age of 18 or 21" it should be !! ….. who says that ??!!
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It should be illegal to circumcise anyone under the age of 18 or 21. Body modification against unwilling recipients is mayhem. People under age 18 do not have the ability to consent to such extra-ordinary body modification. So while adults might generally be free to modify their own bodies as they please, it is wrong illegal mayhem to modify the bodies of unconsenting individuals such as minors, a crime which carries a penalty of up to life in prison in some places. Certainly some cases such as birth deformities, accidents, and medically necessary surgery are exempt. The only question is when is a birth deformity bad enough to require extensive body modification. Some person could be born with a truly abnormally big nose which could be considered a deformity. Another person might just want a nose which was more aesthetically pleasing. It is possible this could be a passing whim…… we’ve seen what multiple nose jobs have done to Michael Jackson. While irreversible body modifications such as tongue splitting and circumcision should be illegal on minors under the age of 18, reversible body modification such as piercings can probably be exempt. But tattoos should probably be illegal…. It may still be somewhat of an unanswered issue. While teenagers can give more consent than a baby, they are still minors making decisions which can affect the whole of their lives, and worse they may be pressured by their parents to undergo unnecessary body modification. While on the one hand some teenagers might want plastic surgery to improve their lives in school which can set the course of their lives, on the other side of the issue, we may see what too many nose jobs has done to Michael Jackson. In the case of circumcision there is no reason why a teenager cannot wait until they are over 18, or even 21 to decide to have this irreversible procedure performed. And it is absolutely immoral and wrong to perform it on an unwilling baby who has no say in the matter.
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Although anal sex plays an important factor in the widespread of the deadly disease, ( mostly gays where anal penetration is common), an infected male or female can pass it on to his/her partner during normal intercourse. Also transfusion of infected blood is also a medium of transmitting the virus. Whatever the Quoran forbids, as long as there is genital contact from an infected person, theres a great chance of passing and spreading the virus. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> What do you mean "if"? > Many muslims have full blown aids. and many of them will die this year. > Higher percentage have contracted the HIV and will develop to full blown > aids in a matter of years. This is the result of neglecting proper sex > hygiene, > unhealthy environment, bestiality and shortage of medical assistance and > doctors. > Anal intercourse is forbidden in hadeeths, (if not in Quraan). > Thus, a muslims is not supposed to fuck anybody up in ass, nor get fucked > by anybody. > Then, how did they get AIDS? > Incidently, I had talked with some muslims about anal intercourse being > forbidden in Islam. > They clarified that hadeeths say that "penetration from rear" is specified > as forbidden in Islam. > Thus, they had interpreted it to mean that if they penetrate a male’s rear > hole or a female’s rear or front hole from his/her back side, it is > forbidden. > they concluded that if they position the male/ female so that they can > penetrate the rear hole when they are in the front of that person, it is > allowed. > thus, they revealed, they have been enjoying anal intercourse with wife, > others, male/females penetrating the ass from front. > Could anyone please shed some light about it.
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> What do you mean "if"? > Many muslims have full blown aids. and many of them will die this year. > Higher percentage have contracted the HIV and will develop to full blown > aids in a matter of years. This is the result of neglecting proper sex > hygiene, > unhealthy environment, bestiality and shortage of medical assistance and > doctors.
Anal intercourse is forbidden in hadeeths, (if not in Quraan). Thus, a muslims is not supposed to fuck anybody up in ass, nor get fucked by anybody. Then, how did they get AIDS? Incidently, I had talked with some muslims about anal intercourse being forbidden in Islam. They clarified that hadeeths say that "penetration from rear" is specified as forbidden in Islam. Thus, they had interpreted it to mean that if they penetrate a male’s rear hole or a female’s rear or front hole from his/her back side, it is forbidden. they concluded that if they position the male/ female so that they can penetrate the rear hole when they are in the front of that person, it is allowed. thus, they revealed, they have been enjoying anal intercourse with wife, others, male/females penetrating the ass from front. Could anyone please shed some light about it.
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if a muslim has full blown aids can he read Salaat in mosque, also read quraan, etc. aids is a disease, is it regarded as a sin in Islam if contracted by what ever means except zinna As we all know about aids lets say if a muslim has full blown aids can one read namaaz in the mosque also quraan and keep roza , aids is a disease, is it regarded as a sin in Islam if contracted by what ever means except zinna , and if by zinna is it also a sin. Answer 6537 2002-08-28 View random fatwa Tell a friend Printable Copy Search Q & A’s View Q & A’s Ask a Question A person with aids can attend the Musjid, read the Qur’aan and fast. Zina is a sin. Aids itself is not a sin. GOOD. THEN AIDS WILL SPREAD IN THE ARAB MOSQUES 
and Allah Ta’ala Knows Best Moulana Imraan Vawda FATWA DEPT. CHECKED AND APPROVED CORRECT: Mufti Ebrahim Desai http://islam.tc/ask-imam/view.php?q=6537
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What do you mean "if"? Many muslims have full blown aids. and many of them will die this year. Higher percentage have contracted the HIV and will develop to full blown aids in a matter of years. This is the result of neglecting proper sex hygiene, unhealthy environment, bestiality and shortage of medical assistance and doctors.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> if a muslim has full blown aids can he read Salaat in mosque, also read > quraan, etc. aids is a disease, is it regarded as a sin in Islam if > contracted by what ever means except zinna > As we all know about aids lets say if a muslim has full blown aids can > one read namaaz in the mosque also quraan and keep roza , aids is a > disease, is it regarded as a sin in Islam if contracted by what ever > means except zinna , and if by zinna is it also a sin. > Answer 6537 2002-08-28 > View random fatwa > Tell a friend > Printable Copy > Search Q & A’s > View Q & A’s > Ask a Question > A person with aids can attend the Musjid, read the Qur’aan and fast. Zina > is a sin. Aids itself is not a sin. > GOOD. THEN AIDS WILL SPREAD IN THE ARAB MOSQUES > and Allah Ta’ala Knows Best > Moulana Imraan Vawda > FATWA DEPT. > CHECKED AND APPROVED CORRECT: Mufti Ebrahim Desai > http://islam.tc/ask-imam/view.php?q=6537
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They also are facing a pandemic of HIV/aids! Sad Commentary – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Dear All > There was a time when Islamic Civilization was considered to be the > most advanced, tolerant and progressive Civilization in the world. > This was mainly because of their accomplishments in practically all > the disciplines of knowledge. After 16th century AD, the situation > changed drastically. Learning and inquiry was no more the motto of the > Muslims with the result that today they occupy the lowest position in > the ladder of the world. They are educationally backward, > scientifically marginal, politically insignificant and economically > poor. This is the present status of the entire Ummah amongst the > community of nations. > Moment of Thinking ! > Regards > Dr. M. Iqtedar Husain Farooqi > www.parvez-video.com
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Dear All There was a time when Islamic Civilization was considered to be the most advanced, tolerant and progressive Civilization in the world. This was mainly because of their accomplishments in practically all the disciplines of knowledge. After 16th century AD, the situation changed drastically. Learning and inquiry was no more the motto of the Muslims with the result that today they occupy the lowest position in the ladder of the world. They are educationally backward, scientifically marginal, politically insignificant and economically poor. This is the present status of the entire Ummah amongst the community of nations. Moment of Thinking ! Regards Dr. M. Iqtedar Husain Farooqi www.parvez-video.com
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Sex Diseases Threaten Half Young Americans: Studies WASHINGTON, February 25 (IslamOnline.net) – Half of the young Americans would get a sexually-transmitted disease (STD) by the age of 25, according to reports released on Tuesday, February 24. The reports, released jointly by Advocates for Youth — a non-profit group advocating sex education — and the sexual health-oriented Alan Guttmacher Institute, collected information from several different publications. In a report in the latest issue of the Perspectives on Sexual and Reproductive Health journal, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said that "approximately 18.9 million new cases of STD occurred in 2000, of which 9.1 million (48 percent) were among persons aged 15 to 24." The institute said on its website that three diseases – human papillomavirus (HPV), trichomoniasis and chlamydia – represent nine in 10 new STD infections among 15-24-year-olds. The reports argued that the U.S. administration’s policy of preferring abstinence-only education has not worked. James Wagoner, President of Advocates for Youth, said in a press release that with STDs "the stakes are just too high to talk only about abstinence" programs. "Over 27 million people between the ages of 15-24 have had sex, and they need all the facts-including medically accurate information on condoms-to protect their health," he added. "It is not surprising that teens and young adults contract a disproportionate number of infections," said Sharon Camp of the Alan Guttmacher Institute in a statement. "Most young people are sexually active, and many are ill equipped to prevent STDs or seek testing and treatment." Camp said that although abstaining from sexual activity is guaranteed to prevent STDs, some adolescents, and virtually all young adults, will eventually choose to have sex. "We need to embrace a realistic approach to sex education that includes information about abstinence and condoms because-together-they are our best defense against STDs," said Miriam Szatrowski, 24, a member of a youth panel. In a fatwa published by IslamOnline, Sheikh Faisal Mawlawi, Deputy Chairman of the European Council for Fatwa and Research, said that "sex education in Islam is a form of imparting religious knowledge to young men or women, for them to be aware of what is required of them in matters of deen [religion] and dunya [life]." He stressed, however, that "it is not allowed under any pretext to use such sex education to sanction adultery or moral deviation by any means such as naked photos or direct description of sexual practices." More Costs New estimates suggest that the direct medical costs associated with a lifetime of treating cases of STD infection diagnosed in young people in 2000 could reach 6.5 billion dollars. The majority of that cost is due to treatment of HIV and the small percentage of HPV cases that result in cervical abnormalities or genital warts, Alan Guttmacher Institute said. In Islam, sexual relations are allowed only among the married couples. Sex outside marriage is not allowed in Islam. "If for any reason men or women are not able to marry, then they must observe abstinence. They have no other way," said Muzammil Siddiqi, former president of the Islamic Society of North America. http://www.islam-online.net/English/News/2004-02/25/article08.shtml
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> Sex Diseases Threaten Half Young Americans: Studies > WASHINGTON, February 25 (IslamOnline.net) –
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Mohammed’s beautiful morals caused him to cut off the heads of 800 Jewish prisoners that had surrendered to him. They caused him to enslave the women and children of these prisoners. They caused him to rape his female prisoners. They caused him to murder anyone who critizised him. They caused him to advocate lying for the benefit of Islam. They caused him to keep 28 slaves of his own. They caused him to rob caravans for the loot.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->The Prophet’s Morals >Allah gifted His servant and Messenger (peace and blessings be upon >him) with all sublime morals. In this context, Almighty Allah says: >And surely thou hast sublime morals] (Al-Qalam 68:4). > ** This has gotta be true for damn sure because Allah/God is using > Elizabethan English – just like the KJV Bible. >On his part, the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) >said, "I was sent (by Allah) to perfect the sublime morals." > ** If boning 9-yr old girls is perfect morals, what the hell is wrong > with Jacko boning 13-yr old boys? >`A’ishah (may Allah be pleased with her) described the Prophet (peace >and blessings be upon him), saying, "His morals were the morals of >Qur’an." > (She was boned by the Prophet when she was 9) >… > — >
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I contacted the author of the newspaper article I referenced in my post for more clarification. I asked her about buying drugs with either an American doctor’s Rx, a Mexican doctor’s Rx or no Rx at all. Her reply: "Mexican law and drug policy are carried out differently, in different places. It is, I’m afraid, a crapshoot for Americans. What I DO know is that quantity is the big issue – some say the cutoff is over 100 pills. That’s what can get you in trouble, whether you bought them in the U.S. and carried them over, or whether you bought them in Mexico. If caught with large quantities, you MUST be able to show a Mexican doctor’s prescription. Same with purchases. If you buy prescription drugs in Mexico, the law is clear that you must have a Mexican doctor’s prescription. The trouble with that is there are plenty of farmacias who will gladly sell them to you – then you’re on your own, if you’re busted. Which could well happen. It’s been shown that a few really corrupt operations will tip off police or accomplices to your "cargo" and come arrest you, then try to shake you down for money. That’s been documented. I hope I answered your questions." Marjie Lundstrom, Sacramento Bee
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> DRUG PENALTIES AND PRESCRIPTION MEDICATIONS: Penalties for drug offenses > are > strict, and convicted offenders can expect large fines and jail sentences > up > to 25 years. The purchase of controlled medication requires a prescription > from a licensed Mexican physician.
It should be noted that many medicines that are controlled here in the US are NOT controlled in Mexico and are perfectly safe to buy. Things like Nexium, Glucotrol and other diabetes meds, many blood pressure meds, antibiotics, and things like topical hyrocortisone ointments are legal to buy over the counter in Mexico WITHOUT any prescription of any kind. But if you are buying meds that need a prescription in Mexico, you damn sure ought to have one. — George in PA http://www.countryside-travel.com The Mother of All Group Cruises http://www.motherofallgroupcruises.com Miracle in May – http://www.cruisemaster.com/miracle.htm September – Triumph Canada/NE – http://www.cruisemaster.com/carnivalFall.htm October – Princess Caribbean http://www.cruisemaster.com/caribprin.htm
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>People have >understood its perfectly legal there and do it all the time.
And the odds of walking away with a bottle of boot leg "sugar pills" is very high. "Anything that doesn’t kill you,,,,,,,just hurts a hell of a lot" JLP20
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> Why was she indicted ?? You say she understood it is legal …. is it legal > or illegal …..
From the U.S. State Department’s consular information sheet on Mexico BEGIN QUOTE DRUG PENALTIES AND PRESCRIPTION MEDICATIONS: Penalties for drug offenses are strict, and convicted offenders can expect large fines and jail sentences up to 25 years. The purchase of controlled medication requires a prescription from a licensed Mexican physician. A few Mexican doctors have been arrested for writing prescriptions without due cause. In those instances, American citizens who bought the medications have been held in jail for months waiting for the Mexican judicial system to decide their fate. The Mexican list of controlled medication differs from that of the United States, and Mexican public health laws concerning controlled medication are unclear and often enforced selectively. To determine whether a particular medication is controlled in Mexico, and therefore requires a prescription from a Mexican doctor for purchase, please consult the website of the Mexican Federal Commission for Protection Against Health Risks at http://www.cofepris.gob.mx/. The U.S. Embassy recommends that U.S. citizens not travel to Mexico for the sole purpose of buying prescription drugs. U.S. citizens have been arrested and their medicines confiscated by the Mexican authorities, even though their prescriptions were written by a licensed American physician and filled by a licensed Mexican pharmacist. There have been cases of Americans buying prescription drugs in border cities only to be arrested soon after or have money extorted by criminals impersonating police officers. In addition, U.S. law enforcement officials believe that the amount of counterfeit and substandard medications in Mexico could be as high as 25 percent. The importation of prescription drugs into the United States can be illegal in certain circumstances. U.S. law generally permits persons to enter the United States with only an immediate (about one-month’s) supply of a prescription medication. Further information on bringing prescription drugs into the United States is available from U.S. Customs and Border Protection at "Know Before You Go." The U.S. Embassy cautions that possession of any amount of prescription medicine brought from the United States, including medications to treat HIV and psychotropic drugs such as Valium, can result in arrest if Mexican authorities suspect abuse or if the quantity of the prescription medicine exceeds the amount required for several days’ use. Individuals should consider carrying a copy of the prescription and a Mexican doctor’s letter explaining that the quantity of medication is appropriate for their personal medical use. END QUOTE Source: http://www.travel.state.gov/travel/mexico.html — I’m Tom Smith, and I approved this message.
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Hank, I don’t know the law, don’t pretend to. We have purchased prescription drugs in Mexico on the past for my mother-in-law and brought them back without a problem. It may very well be that while it is legal to buy drugs in Mexico without a script, it is not legal to bring them back into the U.S. It just might be that the fact that she didn’t have the valid scripts with her were the reason for the bust. — DG in Cherry Hill, NJ
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Why was she indicted ?? You say she understood it is legal …. is it legal > or illegal ….. > Many Americans take advantage of the opportunity to buy a variety of > prescription drugs (antibiotics, anti-depressants, anxiety pills, etc.) > over the counter – without a prescription – in Mexico pharmacies. People > have understood its perfectly legal there and do it all the time. I just > noticed an article in the newspaper about a woman who, allegedly, had > purchased a 3-month supply of her anti-seizure med Dilantin and another > drug for her diabetes. She had US prescriptions, but not on her person, > when she was picked up by Mexican police and indicted. See the article > at:
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Many Americans take advantage of the opportunity to buy a variety of prescription drugs (antibiotics, anti-depressants, anxiety pills, etc.) over the counter – without a prescription – in Mexico pharmacies. People have understood its perfectly legal there and do it all the time. I just noticed an article in the newspaper about a woman who, allegedly, had purchased a 3-month supply of her anti-seizure med Dilantin and another drug for her diabetes. She had US prescriptions, but not on her person, when she was picked up by Mexican police and indicted. See the article at: http://www.sacbee.com/content/news/columns/lundstrom/story/11728542p-…
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Why was she indicted ?? You say she understood it is legal …. is it legal or illegal ….. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Many Americans take advantage of the opportunity to buy a variety of > prescription drugs (antibiotics, anti-depressants, anxiety pills, etc.) > over the counter – without a prescription – in Mexico pharmacies. People > have understood its perfectly legal there and do it all the time. I just > noticed an article in the newspaper about a woman who, allegedly, had > purchased a 3-month supply of her anti-seizure med Dilantin and another > drug for her diabetes. She had US prescriptions, but not on her person, > when she was picked up by Mexican police and indicted. See the article > at: > http://www.sacbee.com/content/news/columns/lundstrom/story/11728542p-…
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Many Americans take advantage of the opportunity to buy a variety of prescription drugs (antibiotics, anti-depressants, anxiety pills, etc.) over the counter – without a prescription – in Mexico pharmacies. People have understood its perfectly legal there and do it all the time. I just noticed an article in the newspaper about a woman who, allegedly, had purchased a 3-month supply of her anti-seizure med Dilantin and another drug for her diabetes. She had US prescriptions, but not on her person, when she was picked up by Mexican police and indicted. See the article at: http://www.sacbee.com/content/news/columns/lundstrom/story/11728542p-…
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Why was she indicted ?? You say she understood it is legal …. is it legal or illegal ….. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Many Americans take advantage of the opportunity to buy a variety of > prescription drugs (antibiotics, anti-depressants, anxiety pills, etc.) > over the counter – without a prescription – in Mexico pharmacies. People > have understood its perfectly legal there and do it all the time. I just > noticed an article in the newspaper about a woman who, allegedly, had > purchased a 3-month supply of her anti-seizure med Dilantin and another > drug for her diabetes. She had US prescriptions, but not on her person, > when she was picked up by Mexican police and indicted. See the article > at: > http://www.sacbee.com/content/news/columns/lundstrom/story/11728542p-…
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Hank, I don’t know the law, don’t pretend to. We have purchased prescription drugs in Mexico on the past for my mother-in-law and brought them back without a problem. It may very well be that while it is legal to buy drugs in Mexico without a script, it is not legal to bring them back into the U.S. It just might be that the fact that she didn’t have the valid scripts with her were the reason for the bust. — DG in Cherry Hill, NJ
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Why was she indicted ?? You say she understood it is legal …. is it legal > or illegal ….. > Many Americans take advantage of the opportunity to buy a variety of > prescription drugs (antibiotics, anti-depressants, anxiety pills, etc.) > over the counter – without a prescription – in Mexico pharmacies. People > have understood its perfectly legal there and do it all the time. I just > noticed an article in the newspaper about a woman who, allegedly, had > purchased a 3-month supply of her anti-seizure med Dilantin and another > drug for her diabetes. She had US prescriptions, but not on her person, > when she was picked up by Mexican police and indicted. See the article > at:
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>People have >understood its perfectly legal there and do it all the time.
And the odds of walking away with a bottle of boot leg "sugar pills" is very high. "Anything that doesn’t kill you,,,,,,,just hurts a hell of a lot" JLP20
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> Why was she indicted ?? You say she understood it is legal …. is it legal > or illegal …..
From the U.S. State Department’s consular information sheet on Mexico BEGIN QUOTE DRUG PENALTIES AND PRESCRIPTION MEDICATIONS: Penalties for drug offenses are strict, and convicted offenders can expect large fines and jail sentences up to 25 years. The purchase of controlled medication requires a prescription from a licensed Mexican physician. A few Mexican doctors have been arrested for writing prescriptions without due cause. In those instances, American citizens who bought the medications have been held in jail for months waiting for the Mexican judicial system to decide their fate. The Mexican list of controlled medication differs from that of the United States, and Mexican public health laws concerning controlled medication are unclear and often enforced selectively. To determine whether a particular medication is controlled in Mexico, and therefore requires a prescription from a Mexican doctor for purchase, please consult the website of the Mexican Federal Commission for Protection Against Health Risks at http://www.cofepris.gob.mx/. The U.S. Embassy recommends that U.S. citizens not travel to Mexico for the sole purpose of buying prescription drugs. U.S. citizens have been arrested and their medicines confiscated by the Mexican authorities, even though their prescriptions were written by a licensed American physician and filled by a licensed Mexican pharmacist. There have been cases of Americans buying prescription drugs in border cities only to be arrested soon after or have money extorted by criminals impersonating police officers. In addition, U.S. law enforcement officials believe that the amount of counterfeit and substandard medications in Mexico could be as high as 25 percent. The importation of prescription drugs into the United States can be illegal in certain circumstances. U.S. law generally permits persons to enter the United States with only an immediate (about one-month’s) supply of a prescription medication. Further information on bringing prescription drugs into the United States is available from U.S. Customs and Border Protection at "Know Before You Go." The U.S. Embassy cautions that possession of any amount of prescription medicine brought from the United States, including medications to treat HIV and psychotropic drugs such as Valium, can result in arrest if Mexican authorities suspect abuse or if the quantity of the prescription medicine exceeds the amount required for several days’ use. Individuals should consider carrying a copy of the prescription and a Mexican doctor’s letter explaining that the quantity of medication is appropriate for their personal medical use. END QUOTE Source: http://www.travel.state.gov/travel/mexico.html — I’m Tom Smith, and I approved this message.
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> DRUG PENALTIES AND PRESCRIPTION MEDICATIONS: Penalties for drug offenses > are > strict, and convicted offenders can expect large fines and jail sentences > up > to 25 years. The purchase of controlled medication requires a prescription > from a licensed Mexican physician.
It should be noted that many medicines that are controlled here in the US are NOT controlled in Mexico and are perfectly safe to buy. Things like Nexium, Glucotrol and other diabetes meds, many blood pressure meds, antibiotics, and things like topical hyrocortisone ointments are legal to buy over the counter in Mexico WITHOUT any prescription of any kind. But if you are buying meds that need a prescription in Mexico, you damn sure ought to have one. — George in PA http://www.countryside-travel.com The Mother of All Group Cruises http://www.motherofallgroupcruises.com Miracle in May – http://www.cruisemaster.com/miracle.htm September – Triumph Canada/NE – http://www.cruisemaster.com/carnivalFall.htm October – Princess Caribbean http://www.cruisemaster.com/caribprin.htm
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I contacted the author of the newspaper article I referenced in my post for more clarification. I asked her about buying drugs with either an American doctor’s Rx, a Mexican doctor’s Rx or no Rx at all. Her reply: "Mexican law and drug policy are carried out differently, in different places. It is, I’m afraid, a crapshoot for Americans. What I DO know is that quantity is the big issue – some say the cutoff is over 100 pills. That’s what can get you in trouble, whether you bought them in the U.S. and carried them over, or whether you bought them in Mexico. If caught with large quantities, you MUST be able to show a Mexican doctor’s prescription. Same with purchases. If you buy prescription drugs in Mexico, the law is clear that you must have a Mexican doctor’s prescription. The trouble with that is there are plenty of farmacias who will gladly sell them to you – then you’re on your own, if you’re busted. Which could well happen. It’s been shown that a few really corrupt operations will tip off police or accomplices to your "cargo" and come arrest you, then try to shake you down for money. That’s been documented. I hope I answered your questions." Marjie Lundstrom, Sacramento Bee
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washingtonpost.com Some Abstinence Programs Mislead Teens, Report Says By Ceci Connolly Washington Post Staff Writer Thursday, December 2, 2004; Page A01 Many American youngsters participating in federally funded abstinence-only programs have been taught over the past three years that abortion can lead to sterility and suicide, that half the gay male teenagers in the United States have tested positive for the AIDS virus, and that touching a person’s genitals "can result in pregnancy," a congressional staff analysis has found. Those and other assertions are examples of the "false, misleading, or distorted information" in the programs’ teaching materials, said the analysis, released yesterday, which reviewed the curricula of more than a dozen projects aimed at preventing teenage pregnancy and sexually transmitted disease. In providing nearly $170 million next year to fund groups that teach abstinence only, the Bush administration, with backing from the Republican Congress, is investing heavily in a just-say-no strategy for teenagers and sex. But youngsters taking the courses frequently receive medically inaccurate or misleading information, often in direct contradiction to the findings of government scientists, said the report, by Rep. Henry A. Waxman (D-Calif.), a critic of the administration who has long argued for comprehensive sex education. Several million children ages 9 to 18 have participated in the more than 100 federal abstinence programs since the efforts began in 1999. Waxman’s staff reviewed the 13 most commonly used curricula — those used by at least five programs apiece. The report concluded that two of the curricula were accurate but the 11 others, used by 69 organizations in 25 states, contain unproved claims, subjective conclusions or outright falsehoods regarding reproductive health, gender traits and when life begins. In some cases, Waxman said in an interview, the factual issues were limited to occasional misinterpretations of publicly available data; in others, the materials pervasively presented subjective opinions as scientific fact. Among the misconceptions cited by Waxman’s investigators:
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> NETHERLANDS: Rare Sexually Transmitted Disease On Rise in Netherlands > Associated Press (11.05.04) – Monday, November 08, 2004 > On Friday in Amsterdam, the Netherlands’ National Institute for Public > Health said that an outbreak of a rate STD among gay and bisexual men > might also facilitate the transmission of HIV. Approximately 80 > percent of the 92 people infected with lymphogranuloma venereum (LGV) > in the Netherlands were also infected with HIV, said Marita van de > Laar, an institute spokesperson. > The disease causes ulcers in the rectum. While it can treated with > antibiotics, scientists believe the associated bleeding may make HIV > transmission easier, said van de Laar. > LGV is normally found in tropical climates, with only one to three > cases reported each year in the Netherlands. Five LGV cases have been > reported in Belgium, and 85 cases have been reported in France since > the beginning of 2004, said van de Laar. Other countries were alerted > to the disease. In the United States, CDC recently issued a warning > after a single case was reported. Van de Laar, who is researching the > outbreaks, said she was unsure of what caused the recent LGV rise.
Don’t post disgusting stuff like that. I just ate dinner!!!
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NETHERLANDS: Rare Sexually Transmitted Disease On Rise in Netherlands Associated Press (11.05.04) – Monday, November 08, 2004 On Friday in Amsterdam, the Netherlands’ National Institute for Public Health said that an outbreak of a rate STD among gay and bisexual men might also facilitate the transmission of HIV. Approximately 80 percent of the 92 people infected with lymphogranuloma venereum (LGV) in the Netherlands were also infected with HIV, said Marita van de Laar, an institute spokesperson. The disease causes ulcers in the rectum. While it can treated with antibiotics, scientists believe the associated bleeding may make HIV transmission easier, said van de Laar. LGV is normally found in tropical climates, with only one to three cases reported each year in the Netherlands. Five LGV cases have been reported in Belgium, and 85 cases have been reported in France since the beginning of 2004, said van de Laar. Other countries were alerted to the disease. In the United States, CDC recently issued a warning after a single case was reported. Van de Laar, who is researching the outbreaks, said she was unsure of what caused the recent LGV rise.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> NETHERLANDS: Rare Sexually Transmitted Disease On Rise in Netherlands > Associated Press (11.05.04) – Monday, November 08, 2004 > On Friday in Amsterdam, the Netherlands’ National Institute for Public > Health said that an outbreak of a rate STD among gay and bisexual men > might also facilitate the transmission of HIV. Approximately 80 > percent of the 92 people infected with lymphogranuloma venereum (LGV) > in the Netherlands were also infected with HIV, said Marita van de > Laar, an institute spokesperson. > The disease causes ulcers in the rectum. While it can treated with > antibiotics, scientists believe the associated bleeding may make HIV > transmission easier, said van de Laar. > LGV is normally found in tropical climates, with only one to three > cases reported each year in the Netherlands. Five LGV cases have been > reported in Belgium, and 85 cases have been reported in France since > the beginning of 2004, said van de Laar. Other countries were alerted > to the disease. In the United States, CDC recently issued a warning > after a single case was reported. Van de Laar, who is researching the > outbreaks, said she was unsure of what caused the recent LGV rise.
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